The training area is within the Low Flying Area (LFA) LFA7, which covers most of Wales. Military only fly through the Loop when the visibility is fairly good or better. by ChrisCwmbran » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:12 pm, Post Whoopee! Spent 4 days in the Loop during the summer a few years ago & didn't see anything until the last day when 2 Tornados went through at 5pm. by Thunder » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:16 pm, Post A lot of noise complaints over the years & there was a lot more complaints leading up to the incident. Agree with Colin. I'll gladly share the information and credit you.
A notable one is the FlightGear flight simulator, created by the FGUK community as an add-on for the simulator which provides the player with the challenge of guiding aircraft at high speed through rings that mark the route.
I don't think its a judgement for us to pass. If you feel you have a… It's a LFA/MTA , push it to the limits, its what makes the RAF the best of the best. The Mallwyd/Dinas to Bwlch y Groes route has still been used by a few RAF flights. Flying has to be very disciplined, and there is no room for a cavalier attitude to safety these days. The answer to over influx of people in the Mach loop is to move away from what is in fact a congestion point for a/c, anything going into LFA 7 more or less goes through the "loop". I guess a lot of crews took summer leave then or went elsewhere. The system of valleys lies 13 km (8 mi) east of Barmouth between the towns of Dolgellau to the north and Machynlleth to the south, from the latter of which it takes its name. People have been commenting on the video - which was posted last year - and the comments are pretty hilarious. Someone posted a video on twitter of a Typhoon going through Cad a tad too low before going vertical. Rumours are he's not in the RAF anymore! The weather was great every day! by Blackjack56 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:12 pm, Post No off-topic discussions here please. by Mark » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:18 pm, Post I have watched the clip and seen some of the comments. by Thunder » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:27 pm, Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:30 am, Post by romeo bravo » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:03 pm, Post Hi does anyone out there in fighter control land know what's happening with the machloop ban can t find anything on any websites. by Geoff Hyde » Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:50 am, Post
The most frequent visitors to the Mach Loop are the Bae Hawk T Mk1 or Mk2 flying from RAF Valley (only a few minutes flying time from the circuit), Eurofighter Typhoons as … I didn't suggest that they could or should police it. by Thunder » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:28 pm, Post by Toefur » Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:25 pm, Post Mark wrote "There were 2 parties in the wrong here. by Blackcat1 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:50 pm, Post
Unfortunately, we've not heard the pilot's side of the story. Move the majority of low level stuff into LFA14 and due to the geographical size and remoteness of it you will not have the same conflict between people and a/c. by Agent K » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:07 pm, Post Us regulars know the rules about posting things like that, being old school I have seen things in the loop and other parts of LFA7 a damn sight worse than that, but she knew the rules, and was asked to take it down on a few forums/pages but she didn't. by Blackcat1 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:04 pm, Post by Mark » Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:50 am, Post There's been a few Eagles through the loop & Navy Hawk T1s. 352nd have been up there as well, not sure how often though.
by Nighthawke » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:14 pm, Post [4], Many flight simulators have replicated the Mach Loop.
The Mach Loop (also known as the Machynlleth Loop) is a series of valleys in the United Kingdom in west-central Wales, notable for their use as low-level training areas for fast jet aircraft and propeller-driven aircraft. If so it must have been somewhat scary, I did read once about vehicles being higher than aircraft using TFR, but I am not sure if this was the Loop. Would appreciate why the RAF have put a ban on? Is it likely to be lifted in the near future? Yep reviewed in early January. The Pilot for performing the climb out and the poster for publishing it despite public opinion regarding the potential ramifications...". The Military only fly through the Loop Monday to Friday. Thanks for replies I was there early November and saw cv_22 osprey the only thing in 4 days there .was slightly upset.. It's just the RAF that's banned . by Gus0898uk » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:06 pm, Post by T_J » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:22 pm, Post by Geoff Hyde » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:21 pm, Post by Blackcat1 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:25 am, Post by Mark » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:12 pm, Post by Blackcat1 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:36 pm, Post The Loop has become too popular over the years, with a lot more areas of LFA7 reduced in traffic. In addition, the scenario has "start" and "finish" points, and each run in the Mach Loop is timed to let the player know the time per lap.
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